Kostas Thanks for the review. A novel way of presenting it ;o) >Bob Talbot - Whodunit >did you did it? :-00000 No, I never set out to harm even insects just for a photo. I guess I might kill a few just by walking in the garden however ;o) It was a "found" shot. >what is the background surface? The top of a wall - Class A Red Engineering Brick. I was lucky the body had not been left across a mortar gap in the brickwork or it would have spoiled (IMO) the shot. The SOCO team has left now: it is just a chalk line around the body. ======== "cannot avoid the good words" section ============= <<< Jeff Spirer - Alcatraz that towering of the building...brings my fear of looking upwards to docked ships out again impressive and scary for me... >>> I find it hard to fault anything in this shot by Jeff. it's a lesson in B&W photography and in particular how to present such images on the web. Converging verticals can be a bit overpowering but here they work. Bob