In a message dated 10/27/03 6:47:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, JBDavis@hkg.odn.ne.jp writes: << Well, glossy with dye inks looks great for a couple of weeks if you're lucky, before they start fading. >> Not even my EX prints have faded. One just has to put the 1270 dyes behind glass to get many years of rich vibrant life to avoid the ozone contamination. (Also should not display them to UV either) And the rich at the edge of the gamut color is why my customers buy them. There are just some colors that just don't exist on a matte surface even if printed with dye.