In Estes? Yikes, sure it wasn't $800? : ) Have used translume for diffusion. Real easy to make giant boxes out of it, some one inch strip of wood, some matt board or whatever for edges, a heavy duty stapler. I would shot anywhere from one to four heads through the thing. Not portable but nice in the studio. Also worked nice suspended from the ceiling -BB --------------------------------------------------- ""I found two whole 13 inch wheels of Brie at the Safeway in Estes Park, Colorado this summer. They wanted just $8.00 each. If I'd had a way to keep them I'd have gotten both and invited everyone to a BWOB wine and cheese party. Peace! Sidney""