My two cents: Photojournalism gives us a chance to do what we love. On assignment, THEY pay for the film, THEY pay for the processing; never come home with an empty camera. Take the time to finish the roll, use extra film, whatever on THEIR dime. That's the advantage. Take advantage . . . plus all the extras that MAY follow, like fame, fortune. When the pain of Not doing it exceeds the pain of doing it . . . JUST DO IT; or not. Steve Shapiro ------------------------------------------------------------ (Robert G. Earnest) photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu wrote on Mon Aug 25 11:14:07 2003: > >P.S. Robert...haven't you spoken with Auntie Em about portraying herself as > >ASMP counsel only on television?? I was on the BOD of the LA chapter of ASMP nearly 20 years ago. It is true that I am tired of lecturing about business practices and copyright issues to clients who then refuse to hire me and the photographers that then get the jobs. In a way I am glad that someone still has the energy to expound the ugly truth. On the other hand, I think that Em should have patted Angel on the back before punching her in the stomach. Nonetheless it was an interesting posting. > Yeah, yeah. I know it sounds rough, But the truth is that > newspapering isn't very good for the journalists' pocketbooks and the > longer photographers aid and abet that, the longer it goes on being > that way. Whose pocketbook "IS" photography good for these days? (Besides Getty and Gates?) Who is making a good living creating photography? It has become a commodity. And as with most commodities the money is in the middle. As for Angies name. I think it should be distinctive. It can be gender specific. Here is how I see it. Work for the paper. Get Photo: Angel Turnpaugh printed by every image you get into the paper. It is not a name that will be missed. Do this for a few years and Angel Turnpaugh will become embedded into the back of the public mind. (hundredth monkey/morphogenetic fields and all that) Use the equity to start a portrait/wedding studio. Everyone will already be familiar with the name and assume that you are famous and obviously very good. best of luck, Robert "the Snake" Earnest