So would we be in Britain and I would not be here. I would have had a lethal injection. Chris http://www.chrisscrazyideas.co.uk http://www.chrissgallery.co.uk |> -----Original Message----- |> From: owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu |> [mailto:owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu]On Behalf Of Mike King |> Sent: 04 April 2003 15:11 |> To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students |> Subject: Re: Thanking the LA Times |> |> |> You're absolutely right and France would be speaking German right now if |> we'd stayed out of WW1 or WW2. |> |> darkroommike |> |> ---------- |> ----- Original Message ----- |> From: "andrew fildes" <afildes@netlink.com.au> |> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" |> <photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu> |> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:06 AM |> Subject: Re: Thanking the LA Times |> |> |> > >Rand: you have it exactly. |> > > |> > >The two original images are mundane. |> > >In the manipulated one the soldier's hand is (metaphorically) putting |> > >down the now juxtaposed (cowering?) pleading Iraqi prisoner. |> > >The composite, enhanced by the crop, tells a very different story |> > > |> > |> > |> > Disagree - in the original second (right-hand) image, the soldier is |> > pointing his rifle directly at the man and child in the middle |> > ground, in a nonchalantly threatening manner. In the final (which, |> > otherwise, is a great image) he is restraining them with his hand in |> > an active and protective manner and is flanked on the right by |> > smiling or attentive faces. The gun is moving away. A very different |> > atmosphere and one that suggests an political agenda designed to suit |> > or subtly manipulate the audience. This is far beyond cropping as an |> > unethical procedure. Of course, neither the real nor the created |> > image may accurately represent the reality but it certainly is |> > unacceptable as anything but a work of art. |> > |> > Oh - and as to the knee-jerk reflex jingoism. Risible and |> > unfortunate. Makes me glad I'm neither North American nor European. |> > Stop it or you'll go blind. Not everyone is grateful for US or |> > European 'assistance,' now are they? |> > AndrewF |> > |> |> |>