Greg, Bummer about the coffee in the coffee house. I'm impressed now with not only your photographic eye, but also your inventiveness to enhance the usefulness of the camera. And I'd bet a cup of coffee that as regards the cooperative young lady, you couldn't help but to stare at her while at the coffee house. :-) peace, rand ----- Original Message ----- Thanks for the comments Rand. The Brownie camera I used has but one shutter speed around 1/50th sec and only 2 f-stops. Kind of hard to force the world to conform to these limitations so I used a red filter which gave me an exposure of 4 seconds at f20. Most of the people managed to move during that 4 seconds but the one young lady co-operated nicely. I can't help but stare at her when ever I look at the image. Greg