kostas papakotas wrote: > well what have i fount! > a zone system ruler that you make yourself putting the printed on carton > parts together! > > i really do not know if it is a new idea or not, but do check it out at: > > http://www.artzone.gr/ruler/zoneruler.htm > > and do let me know on it's efficiency.... > > that's all, kostas Kostas, I've seen this one before and may have downloaded a copy. The identifiers seem generally accurate enough if the scale is well calibrated. At the least, it's a good learning tool. At the worst, it's a static crutch that may not encourage creative visualization, like the nasty rule of thirds. Learn it, use it, forget it. Peace! -- God said, Let there be light! Divine Light: Photography by Rev. Sidney Flack 2507 E. 2nd Street Tulsa, OK 74104-1903 http://www.divinelightphotography.com