Re: Art or fart ?

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At 07:20 AM 10/26/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>> > Can an animal produce art?
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>> Yes, there is that elephant that paints pictures that people buy.
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><GRIN>
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>Yea yea yea?
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>Does the elephant actually decide what to paint or is it acting as a
>"robot" for its Mahout?
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>If it is merely a learned response - it has been trained to paint one
>picture or follow the mahout's instructions ... then it is not the
>elephant's creation.


Bob,

I listen to the mahout in my head.  Don't you?

>A photocopier can produce copies - but they are copies.


>The nearest for sure might be
>a) bower birds - but the decoration of the bower arguably is
>utilitarian: no decoration, no mate

Female bower birds must be great art critics:  Birdie Art Povera at the Out
Back Guggy.  Bachelor number three has a profound sense of the found object.
His world is not the phenomenological one borne to us by our unified senses
but the discontinuous plurality of all possible worlds and impossible
meanings endlessly photocopied to where it is no longer the same throughout
over time. Rather than trying to adapt the stuff of the dumpster to a single
discourse and reintegrating it to the artists gaze he has appropriated with
the fullness of avian impulses in so far as it relates to the exigencies of
aesthetic reproductive expression and urges manifested by overtly feathered
artists. You go bird!"  

AZ

>b) caddis fly larvae - very particular about how they decorate thier
>shells ...
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>Traditionally animals apart from man had (were though of as having) no
>rational thought - only responses.  If art required intellectual input
>(creativity?) they were by definition excluded.



>Bob
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