At 07:20 AM 10/26/2002 +0100, you wrote: >> > Can an animal produce art? >> > >> Yes, there is that elephant that paints pictures that people buy. > ><GRIN> > >Yea yea yea? > > >Does the elephant actually decide what to paint or is it acting as a >"robot" for its Mahout? > >If it is merely a learned response - it has been trained to paint one >picture or follow the mahout's instructions ... then it is not the >elephant's creation. Bob, I listen to the mahout in my head. Don't you? >A photocopier can produce copies - but they are copies. >The nearest for sure might be >a) bower birds - but the decoration of the bower arguably is >utilitarian: no decoration, no mate Female bower birds must be great art critics: Birdie Art Povera at the Out Back Guggy. Bachelor number three has a profound sense of the found object. His world is not the phenomenological one borne to us by our unified senses but the discontinuous plurality of all possible worlds and impossible meanings endlessly photocopied to where it is no longer the same throughout over time. Rather than trying to adapt the stuff of the dumpster to a single discourse and reintegrating it to the artists gaze he has appropriated with the fullness of avian impulses in so far as it relates to the exigencies of aesthetic reproductive expression and urges manifested by overtly feathered artists. You go bird!" AZ >b) caddis fly larvae - very particular about how they decorate thier >shells ... > > >Traditionally animals apart from man had (were though of as having) no >rational thought - only responses. If art required intellectual input >(creativity?) they were by definition excluded. >Bob > > > > Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book. http://www.panoramacamera.us