My appologies, I tend to attack things i don't like and you got on my bad side... :( sorry. I would suggest telling people YOUR views first and then asking THEIR opinions , I think you'll get better responses that way. Again, I really am sorry for jumping down your throat..... At 06:58 PM 10/25/2002 -0600, you wrote: >I guess I will take some time and explain my reason behind my topic for my >paper: I myself am thoroughly convinced that photography is definitely a >form of art. But about 90% of the students in the art program here think >otherwise. So, I have set out to try to show them that it is a form of >art, and thank you whoever it was for Duchamp's example of the urinal >fountain. The whole Dada art movement had slipped my mind somehow. And >this, for me, is not an easy topic. That is why I have refered to all of >you for help in formulating ideas, etc... > >-- Brian Blankenship B & N Graphics http://www.bngraphics.com "Under God" And "In God We Trust" "You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it." ~ Robin Williams "Freedom was attacked today by a faceless coward, and freedom will be defended." ~ George W. Bush 9-11-2001 "To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson "Not all who wander are lost..." ~ J.R.R. Tolkien "Simplifying a Composition - One time when Ansel was shooting in the Sierras with some friends, he came away from his camera and walked into the scene. He grabbed a hold of a tree limb, ripped it off the tree, and tossed it aside. When his more environmentally concerned friends made an uproar, he simple stated that it did not belong in the picture." ~ Ansel Adams Autobiography