Thank you Zoe KK, I'm redeemed. What is your referece for the definitions offered below? S ----- Original Message ----- From: "zoë kk" <zkk19@hotmail.com> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@ase-listmail.rit.edu> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Photography as Art? > ah, the application of logic.... > > if the definition of art is: > ------------------ > > art Pronunciation Key (ärt) > n. > 1. Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of > nature. > 2. > a. The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, > movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, > specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium. > b. The study of these activities. > c. The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a > group. > > 3. High quality of conception or execution, as found in works of beauty; > aesthetic value. > 4. A field or category of art, such as music, ballet, or literature. > 5. A nonscientific branch of learning; one of the liberal arts. > 6. > a. A system of principles and methods employed in the performance of a set > of activities: the art of building. > b. A trade or craft that applies such a system of principles and methods: > the art of the lexicographer. > > 7. > a. Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the > baker; the blacksmith's art. > b. Skill arising from the exercise of intuitive faculties: "Self-criticism > is an art not many are qualified to practice" (Joyce Carol Oates). > > 8. > a. arts Artful devices, stratagems, and tricks. > b. Artful contrivance; cunning. > > 9. Printing. Illustrative material. > > > ------------------------ > and the definition of an artist is: > ------------------------ > > art·ist Pronunciation Key (ärtst) > n. > 1. One, such as a painter, sculptor, or writer, who is able by virtue of > imagination and talent or skill to create works of aesthetic value, > especially in the fine arts. > 2. A person whose work shows exceptional creative ability or skill: You are > an artist in the kitchen. > 3. One, such as an actor or singer, who works in the performing arts. > 4. One who is adept at an activity, especially one involving trickery or > deceit: a con artist. > > ----------------------- > then yes, photography is art. > surely a craft can be an art? > > zoek. > > > === > -@- > +++ > > w. http://www.frequentwash.com > e. zkk19@hotmail.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >