since this thread is about digital cameras, may I add that canon has new 1DS (12 megapixel) without faviougn (or whatever spelling) chips. I talked to one salesman yesterday who has received a pre-production model for testing. Unlike D60 or present 1d, this does not do 1.6 x cropping and has edge to edge cmos sensor, so one can now utilize the full potential of 17-35mm lens on digital! :) it will probably cost similar to present 1d. raw file sizes, i belive, are around 15 mb. sorry if this is already a stale news. :) achal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bright, Christy [IBD]" <christy.bright@citigroup.com> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@ase-listmail.rit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: RE: digital camera question > Wow, Christiane, what an incredible resource you are! I'll be printing this > out and taking it with me to B&H. The lag time on the shutter will take some > getting used to, but it sounds like that's almost impossible to avoid with > digital unless you're willing to spend 2 grand. The extreme depth of field > is my other big concern. Is there no way around this? Do digital cameras > take multiple lenses the way film cameras do? Forgive my ignorance if this > is a silly question - I really have no experience in digital (which I'm sure > is obvious). > > Again, thank you so much! You really went above and beyond and I appreciate > it. > > Christy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christiane Roh [mailto:rohcris@vtx.ch] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:25 PM > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > Subject: Re: digital camera question > > > Le 2.10.2002 1:36, « Bright, Christy [IBD] » <christy.bright@citigroup.com> > a écrit : > > > I'm considering buying the Canon Powershot G2. Anyone have any experience > with > > it or any thoughts on its quality? Is it suitable for professional use? It > > comes highly recommended from a photographer whose work with it I adore, > but I > > was hoping to get a few other opinions before I lay down the cash. > > Hi Christy, > > I've got one of these little cameras one year ago and I do really love it. I > was so convinced by it.. That six months later I got the Canon D60. > > What I love with the G2 : > > 1) the ease of digital : no more scanning > 2) the lovely swiveling display screen which allow you to shoot with new > angle of view and unseen. > 3) the image quality : as stated by Rob, it's the best you can get from a > digital point and shoot. > 4) the complete control you can get on almost every settings including > manual modes. > 5) the ability to make great pictures with a very small and light camera > (like a notebook you can always keep with yourself). > 6) the ability to check the picture taken for correct exposure with the mean > of an histogram (sharpness is more difficult to check however). > 7) the well designed user interface (I found it was easier than on the Nikon > Coolpix). > 8) the very long life of the battery. > 9) the possibility to use IBM Microdrives (especially if you shoot a lot). > > What bothered me : > 1) the somewhat buggy Canon software and slow conversion of raw image to tif > (but if you are using a PC then there are many good alternatives which we > don't have with a Mac. > 2) a little noise at 400 ASA.. > > What can bother some : > 1) the extreme depth of field : it is almost impossible to get blurred > background, even at F2.8 and using the tele at its max length (102mm > equivalent in 35mm). > 2) the problem that you don't get a really wide angle equivalent, but only > approximately 32mm (go for the Nikon 5000 if you want a 28mm wide, but the > zoom will then be shorter); you can add an adapter and a special lens if you > want to get a larger angle of view on the G2, but it adds very cumbersome > gear to a small camera. > 3) some complained about the flash overexposing in automode (but I tend to > use available light) and if I get some overexposure I tend to think I was > too near of the subject. > 4) a very very poor optical viewfinder : I ended up using the display screen > only (but I love it, provided you are more careful with camera shakes, you > won't regret it). > > The main reason why I got the D60 is : > SHUTTERLAG SHUTTERLAG SHUTTERLAG SHUTTERLAG.. Some pretend one can drive it > down to less than a second by cutting the display screen off, setting the > camera in pano/landscape mode (the program adjusts for the max DOF and thus > takes benefits from the loooong DOF and skip the Autofocus step), memorizing > the exposure in advance. But I don't want to work for ever using the auto > everything mode. So I got the D60.. > > But on the D60 I regret : > 1) a more cumbersome piece of equipment > 2) a more obtrusive piece of equipment > 3) you get 6 meg instead of 4, which is often, but not always, a good thing, > because it comes at a price : it takes more time to convert and much more > space on your HDD and CDs when converted. You don't always need all these > pixels, but you can't get raw pictures at lower size, so unless you accept > JPG, you are condemned to use the max resolution. > 4) no swiveling display screen, no live preview of the image in the display > screen. > 5) the fixed display screen can only be used to check the pictures after you > have taken it, but the way you can only enlarge the picture twice instead of > three times with the G2. You can't move through the enlarged picture as > easily as with the G2 and you realize soon that this is not a feature you > can really use. > > Conclusion : > > 1) the G2 is really the best of cameras in order to get a feel of what > digital is. It will allow you to take pictures which you can enlarge at > letter size, or even to A3 with the help of Genuine Fractal. Compared to the > D60, it has some more noise already at 200 ISO and clearly more at 400 ISO. > > 2) it's the camera that months after months gets the more hits on the best > www site about digital cameras : http://www.dpreview.com > > 3) check there for a very complete review concerning the Canon G2 : > http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canong2/ > > 4) Canon has just released the CanonG3 which is said to have a better AF > system (called a flexizone compared to the G2 three selectable zone method). > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0209/02091605canong3.asp > It is still a 4meg model however and it comes with the same sensor and same > lens as the G2. Depending on your budget, it may be a good moment to get an > interesting price on the G2, be it second hand or new. > > 5) I'd also seriously consider a second hand D30 if I was a pro on a budget. > Although it has just a little less pixels than the G2, the quality of the > picture is so much better that you won't notice the difference. A friend of > mine, who has both a D30 and a D60 for his studio, told me that the D30 was > sharper than the D60. So, in case you have already Canon lenses, a second > hand D30 could be a valuable alternative to a G2 or G3, especially if you > are a professional (clients may think that your G2 doesn't look pro enough > (even if it takes very good pictures). > > I hope this will help you and wish you good luck with your purchase. > > Christiane > > > > > >
