i wonder if anyone has ever designed a patern of stripes, colored squares and other shapes, that can be printed in a big piece of paper (couple of m2 large), or painted on a wall, to be used as a standard reference to be photographed, and comparisons of lenses or films be made would be great to use one, kostas =============================================== so... no matter what, CHEER UP MY FRIENDS! Life is too precious to jump the other side of the fence... kostas papakotas / clenched teeth photography http://groups.msn.com/clenchedteethphotography/home.htm 'COS SOMETIMES IT IS BETTER WITH CLENCHED TEETH! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com