Hello Richard, Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 8:53:34 PM, you wrote: RC> The second gallery shows file names. DSCXXX.jpg. Did you use the Sony DSC RC> F707 and if so, can you share the camera setting and filters. If not, what RC> camera did you use? Yes, this was the Sony 707. I am using the Tiffen 87 filter and a .6 ND - it was about 11am and sunny. I shot it in 'nightshot' mode, handheld, so the exposure was about f2-2.4 and 1/60sec depending on the zoom. In photoshop I did levels, and a gradient map to get rid of color cast and convert to B&W. If I remember correctly only one of the images was done on the tripod without the nightshot mode. 707 has enough IR sensitivity in normal/manual mode to get f2 at about 1-2 sec exposure with the 87 filter. But most of the pictures were not pre-planned, so I didn't have a tripod with me. What I am surprised is that the camera can obtain focus in manual mode with the 87 filter most of the time. I wish I had a higher-cut filter (Tiffen 87c or RM90) that would eliminate the need for the ND filter when it's too bright, but that's major $ that I didn't want to spend (yet). During the last photo-walk, of all the pictures that I took, there was only one in color... (warning: IR addiction in proress :) -- Best regards, Victor mailto:vrem@swbell.net