At 02:13 PM 6/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: >...............................................................The pain on your face seems >far greater than what I would expect from losing a tip............. >Gregory Fraser Having lost several tips of my own, due to dry gangrene, I can say that losing tips can be really really painful. I was on an MS pump for four months. Pictures are available on request. Dave East Englewood -------------------------- And almost footless ......