well things are still not getting any better with my concert photography efforts, so i do have to ask for your help. first i have a question to ask...what is the reason i'm getting grainy, grayed (underexposed ? )shots. one possibility could be that the light is not enough anyway, but i still get photos like that even at shutter speeds of 1/30 or faster. another possibility is the TTL meter screwing up in the concerts' low light situations.for those reasons i usually overexpose 1 stop. yet i heve been told that the real reason is that the meter reads a basically black scene, and sets the exposure to bring that black frame to 18% gray. a good example would be the my latest session, found at: http://groups.msn.com/clenchedteethphotography/longliveconcertphotos.msnw?Page=1 all these color photos were corrected by tinkering with the brightness and contrast of the frames to get an almost black background, and occasionaly with increasing the contrast of the dominant color, or by decreasing the color (just a slight hue actually ) of the background. actually my ability to digitally manipulate a frame is to scan a print and then use the Windows PhtoEditor (no Photoshop available). So i need better tips coming from you, on how to effectively improve such photos. thjanx all beforehand, kostas _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com