just thought I'd share a few things with the list. Some time back I bought a Canon S800 photo printer sight unseen based on a few rave reviews by former Epson fans. I paid the $$ online and received the printer a number of days later, held my breath, and fed in the first sheet - I was delighted with the output and have remained so to this day*. Although only A4 output the quality is superb.. and then I discovered anther benefit. I had one head alignment issue so rather than discarding the print (and given that I am a compulsive fiddler) I dropped it in a bucket of water for ten minutes to find after retrieving it that there was NO ink run. Another test later down the track after 1 hour showed visible bleeding, but hey, that was after an HOUR! Both these results were with the Epson matte and gloss papers, the canon I never tried as I never bought any paper beyond the free samples which looked much warmer in the original prints than the Epson and with a noticibly softer surface which scratched easily.. which leads me to the next observation - a shop nearby was offering TDK paper cheap and I bought a pack only to find that the ink flocculated heavily on the surface forming mottling - I also dunked a sheet of this only to find that the surface lifted and the ink bled freely. I don't recommend the TDK paper that's all folks karl (*thanks Colette for the 'mercy Ink supply' :-)