After a new pgsql installation the "postgres" maintenance database has an encoding of SQL_ASCII. pgAdmin III gave me a warning about that, and I may want to create users or databases that are not restricted 7bit ASCII. I was going to backup and recreate this table, but it can't be dropped. I guess I could backup all of the other databases and start over from "initdb", but that would be a hassle. Do I have any other options? The strange thing is that I have two very similarly configured Ubuntu machines and the other created the "postgres" database with UTF8 encoding. The locale on both machines is the same: $ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= -Brad -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general