phoenix.kiula@xxxxxxxxx ("Phoenix Kiula") writes: > On 8/26/08, Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I think nobody would guide you step by step. Either read documentation >> and do it yourself or hire an expert: > > Thanks. I suppose that spirit is quite evident in the documentation. > Why make it easy or easily understandable when you can win fanatical > fans by requiring them to invest months of their time! I think that the level of detail that we *DID* give in the page on version upgrades was not unsuitable. http://www.slony.info/documentation/versionupgrade.html It doesn't try to explain *EVERYTHING*; it tries to give enough detail to help you construct whatever procedure you need to construct. The trouble with it all is that: a) Flexibility comes at a cost, namely the cost of there being some not-inconsiderable complexity. Unfortunately, it's not easy, and wishing it were so is just wishful thinking. I wish it *could* be easy, but it simply isn't, and I don't see anything to change that *would* make it easy. b) People are using different sorts of environments that can vary quite a bit. This means that if we write up a super-detailed procedure, that procedure will ONLY be valid for the specific environment it was written for. For instance, I could go into gratuitous detail about how to do PostgreSQL and Slony-I compiles and installs on our AIX systems, unfortunately, that detail would NOT be useful to you when you're using something else. If, instead, I went into deep detail as to how to deal with a 2-node cluster on Ubuntu Linux, in conjunction with CPanel, this would: a) Not be relevant to our staff that aren't using that flavour of Linux, and b) Have portions that are totally irrelevant to anyone not using CPanel. Super-detailed procedures aren't worth having, sorry. -- (format nil "~S@~S" "cbbrowne" "linuxfinances.info") http://linuxfinances.info/info/advocacy.html "Be warned that typing ``killall name'' may not have the desired effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done by a privileged user." -- From the killall manual page