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On 02/05/2008 11:38 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Clemens Schwaighofer <cs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> * Disallow database encodings that are inconsistent with the server's 
>> locale setting (Tom)
> 
>> does this mean, if my server LOCALE is for example UTF-8.en_US, and I want 
>> to create a EUC_JP database it gets rejected? do I missunderstand that?
> 
> Nope, you have it correctly.

okay, good, as I finally have a reason to change this then on those view
databases.

>> Normaly my servers have default locale set to UTF-8.en_US but also have the 
>> locales for UTF-8.ja_JP and EUC_JP there, 99.9% of my databases are utf-8, 
>> but I have some clients that created EUC_JP databases, will the upgrade 
>> affect this?
> 
> I'm surprised your clients haven't been screaming about bogus sorting
> and upper/lowercasing behavior.

well, originally they were on a server that is also in EUC_JP, but they
need to move away to one of my servers that is pure UTF-8, and I cannot
change this setting because of my other databases, so probably better to
convert them over to UTF-8 and adept the scripts to convert to the
target encoding, rather than going on with the same mess.

> If you want to support multiple encodings, the only safe locale choice
> is (and always has been) C.  If you doubt this, troll the archives for
> awhile --- for example, searching for locale+encoding in pgsql-bugs
> should provide plenty of amusing reading matter.  8.3 is just refusing
> to do things that are known to be unsafe in previous releases.
> 
> 			regards, tom lane


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