A 'bad' thing happened yesterday. Postgresql 8.1.X FreeBSD 6.0 At some point in the day, ran out of space on the root filesystem. (db is elsewhere) Took about 10 minutes to clear enough space to make processes stop freaking out and to slow my heart-rate down to below 200 beats per minute. Everything 'seemed' to be fine after that. Database was constantly utilized with no errors for several more hours. Later that evening (during our peak activity time), a process was inadvertently run that when combined with peak activity time caused the load average on the box to spike into the stratosphere (19). *sigh* Database activity was taking so long (heavy web app server use), that db connection handles skyrocketed (over 120 when normally stays below 30) and started getting complaints from pool management No ManagedConnections available within configured blocking timeout ( 30000 [ms] ) At that point, started stopping all unnecessary activity and even restarted app server to clear all the connections. However....the db connections all stayed in some sort of 'frozen' state.....showing that they were either idle (in transaction) or processing SELECTs or whatever they were last doing. (Normally restarting app server will cause those connections to reset pretty quickly) Tried killing a few of the idle ones manually...but it was like pissing on a forest fire. Hmmmm. It was time to do something hadn't done in a LOOONG time, restart postgres. Uh oh.... "postmaster does not shut down". I tried fast, I tried immediate. No dice. Postmaster refused to die. I don't know how many times I've heard "don't kill -9 the postmaster", but that's what I did (on the 'head' of the snake referenced in the pid file)....it died, but all the other processes remained. *grumble*. Couldn't get a killall to get rid of the rest (not sure why) so I was back to pissing on the forest file typing kill kill kill. My co-hort in the office claimed that more processes were showing up for each one I killed....(I assume he was delirious at that point) but this was taking too long anyway. So I bounced the box. I prayed. Came back up fine...postgres, slony, etc..... no errors reported when the database started. I see no errors in my logs through the night when autovacuum and backups occurred, so the database 'appears' to be intact..... I do notice that all of my logs (all.log, etc) are 'missing' between the filesystem full issue earlier in the day and the time I rebooted (I assume the OS was NOT happy with me letting it run out of space on / ) So.....other than the half-dozen things that I obviously did wrong, was there anything else I could have done with postgres when it refused to shut down? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings