In response to "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Tom Lane wrote: > > "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> Bill Moran wrote: > >>> Instructions are in the mail headers of each message: > > > >> Actually it is quite ridiculous that we expect someone to read the mail > >> headers. I don't find it so. That's like saying it's ridiculous to expect the average auto owner to change the oil every 3000 miles. Reading headers isn't a terribly esoteric thing to do. I taught an "intro to email" class back in 2000 and spent about 5 minutes explaining headers and what they meant. The students didn't have any difficulty grasping the concept, and I got the impression that they found the information enlightening. > > Those headers are really there for mail programs to read. On my MUA > > (a several-years-old version of exmh), messages containing these headers > > causes an additional menu entry to appear, with List/Unsubscribe and > > some other options. I suppose there are still people using mailers that > > don't know about RFC2369, but considering that that standard was > > published in 1998, there's not a whole lot of excuse for that. > > Thunderbird, which I expect MANY of our community users are using does > nothing with those headers (as far as I can tell). I've never been a big fan of Thunderbird. > Outlook and Outlook express, which many of our community users will be > using in the future (by nature of our win32 port) to my knowledge does > nothing with those headers. It's a shame that nobody at Microsoft is smart enough to figure it out. The thing that really gets me is that Sylpheed doesn't use them ... > Our lists (the @postgresql.org ones) are the only lists to which I > subscribe that do not put the unsubscribe info at the bottom of every > email sent to the list. I guess that makes RFC2369 another great idea that nobody's paying attention to ... shame ... -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc.
