I've been searching for sales/customer management software I can use in my small business _and_ which can use postgres as the database back end. I don't understand why this has been an essentially futile search; almost everyone puts something out that is hard wired for MySQL. I've just discovered CentricCRM, but know nothing about it other than it uses postgres. I like what little I've seen of Xrms, but they're still too far away from supporting postgres (but I've translated field names from mixed case to lower case in some files to help out the developers). SugarCRM (and it's shadow, vTiger) require MySQL; the former has so much eye candy my teeth ache just looking at it. The latter two seem to put more emphasis on form than function. There must be something useful out there of which I am completely unaware. I've been using postgres for about nine years now and have no desire -- or need -- to install a second dbms for a single application. Nor do I want the hassles of learning and maintaining a second application. I'm not particularly fond of BUIs (Browser User Interfaces), but I've come to reluctantly accept them. I'd greatly appreciate some pointers to a tool I can use to help me quickly rebuild my business in a new area. TIA, Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | The Environmental Permitting Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM) | Accelerator <http://www.appl-ecosys.com> Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863