Forgot important part ... running on RHEL 4 Update 3 x86_64 using the 8.1.3 PG distributed in the RH Web Application Beta. SELECT version() PostgreSQL 8.1.3 on x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC x86_64-redhat-linux-gcc (GCC) 3.4.5 20051201 (Red Hat 3.4.5-2) -Mike