Suppose I have some tables and views like so for dog breeds and breeders and their inventory where I also have a 'human' view of dog inventory where the breed and breeder names are displayed instead of the numerical IDs. I've gotten inserts working but I'm stymied by updates and deletes... any help? Also, would inserting into this view be faster than the 3 SQL statements I would otherwise need to look up the IDs and inserting them and the count in the inv table? This is a stripped down idealized example, so I apologize for any syntax errors... create table breeds ( breed_id SERTIAL PRIMARY KEY, name TEXT NOT NULL UNIQUE ); create table breeders ( breeder_id SERIAL PRIMARY KEY, name TEXT NOT NULL UNIQUE ); create table inv ( breeder_id integer references breeder on update cascade, breed_id integer references breeds on update cascase, count integer NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY(breeder_id,breed_id) ); create view hinv AS SELECT h.name AS breeder, d.name AS breed, count FROM breeders h, breed d, inv WHERE h.breeder_id = inv.breeder_id AND d.breed_id = inv.breed_id; CREATE hinv_ins AS ON INSERT TO hinv DO INSTEAD INSERT INTO inv(breeder_id,breed_id,count) SELECT h.breeder_id, d.breed_id, NEW.count WHERE h.name = NEW.breeder AND d.name = NEW.breed; update/delete??? Thanks, Mike H. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend