I am working on upgrading from V11 to V12 on Debian. My first attempt failed, and I have figured out that this is because I have added extensions to the V11 DB, at least one of which was not installed using the Debian packages. So, it looks like i need to install these before doing the upgrade, correct? This brings up a chicken or egg issue however. We are creating the extensions, like this: CREATE EXTENSION emailaddr with schema ica So, to accomplish this, I would need to create the ice schema, and the user it "belongs" to before I run pg_upgradecluster. This raises 2 questions 1) Is it OK to create these before doing the upgrade? 2) Does this flag that creating these extensions "in" a schema may be a long term "bad idea"? Thanks for any advice n this. -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin