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On 04/18/2018 05:22 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:

On Apr 18, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 04/18/2018 03:07 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Adrian Klaver
<adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I would contact the Webmaster but Contact goes to a big image of an elephant
head. That is also where Downloads, Support and Donate lands. Might have
been a good idea to roll out a demo site for testing first. Will reserve
judgment on the site design until it is functioning.
I really don't think it's practical to give everyone a veto on a
website design. It took years to launch this website redesign.
Honestly, I was beginning to think that it would never happen.
Anyway, I did notice something myself, which is that the git logo
links to https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/, which has many
non-very-important git repos. Instead, it should point to the main
PostgreSQL repository's gitweb page, which is at
https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git.

And to get to the mailing list archives(arguably one of the most important links) you have to:

We designed the website with 3 user profiles:

- New to PostgreSQL > - Users
- Hackers >
These are 3 very different experiences. It’s hard
to find a balance for all of these different needs.

When we analyzed the traffic we opted to make
various trade offs based on what the most
accessed pages.

We did note that the people who need to access
the mailing list archives know how to get there.

Under the old system. In the new system it took me a bunch of clicking around to find the new location.


The nice thing about a website is that it is easy
to iterate over and we can rapidly add things in
should they be necessary.

Click on Community, click on Mailing Lists on the left sidebar, then scroll to the bottom of page to find the search box.

I am one of the No votes in the survey.

I’m sorry to hear that.  However based on our data
we opted to focus optimizing the experience for
getting people using PostgreSQL in their apps to
the right places.  If you have constructive feedback
on how we can improve in other areas I’m happy to
listen.  As someone who does answer webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx feel free
to reach out.

To start:

Home Page

Picture(its a nice picture) takes up a third page of the page to display two buttons. One Download replicates the tab just above. The second 'New to Postgrsql? replicates the section just below it.

New to PostgreSQL? should be in the tabs above. Not sure why it is more important then the News buried down at the bottom:
"
PostgreSQL 10.3 Released!

This release centers around added documentation that describes CVE-2018-1058 and how to take steps to mitigate the impact on PostgreSQL databases. There are also several bug fixes included in the release. All users using the affected versions of PostgreSQL should update as soon as possible.
"

Clicking on the Mailing List link on front page should take you to page that includes the archives.

The acres of white space needs to be eliminated to bring information closer together and eliminate wear and tear on the scroll wheel.


Jonathan



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Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx




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