On 10 October 2016 at 14:49, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > MVCC rules (which DDL generally fall under) try to interleave work as > much as possible which is the problem you're facing. Mmff. Yes, that exposes a fundamental misunderstanding on my part: I had thought that under MVCC things were done independently and resolved at COMMIT time, as opposed to potentially-conflicting transactions resulting in one transaction blocking _mid-transaction_ until the other resolves, as it does. So I suppose the logic goes, it's not clear that the DROP / CREATE results in a potential conflict until the table is created, so since both transactions drop a non-existent table, they both then try to create the table, and I get my error. I had thought that the DDL would simply have its own view on the data and therefore be able to do all of its work up to COMMIT, but on reconsidering I can see that the amount of overhead involved in the COMMIT would be phenomenal. Having said all of that, I'm confused as to why CREATE TABLE in tr1 doesn't block a subsequent DROP TABLE IF EXISTS in tr2. So if, in two psql sessions you run (shown in order of execution): tr1: BEGIN; DROP TABLE IF EXISTS mytable; CREATE TABLE mytable (test int); tr2: BEGIN; DROP TABLE IF EXISTS mytable; -- could block here, no? CREATE TABLE mytable (test int); -- actually blocks here > Also, this is not a good pattern. You ought to be using temp tables > or other mechanics to store transaction local data. The data isn't transaction-local. Having said that, the _actual_ pattern is much worse than that, but it's not my design, I just have to work with it. Geoff -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
