On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 01/24/2016 08:13 AM, Chris Travers wrote:
If I could make one proposal for an additional clause:
* PostgreSQL is a community project and takes no position on any
political question aside from its usage in the public sector (which we
support). We expect communication in community fora to respect this
need. The community is neither competent nor interested in resolving
more general social or political questions.
That won't work. The community does take positions. A good example is when -core denounced the topless dancers at the Russian conference. That position was taken without consideration that at a lot of this community doesn't care, won't care, or agrees with the right for the Russian conference to have those dancers. It was done so because -core wants all people to feel welcome.
I don't know that this is really a political resolution though (aside from being the politics of community governance). I don't see the PostgreSQL core committee taking a position on the question of topless dancing, just that it would be inappropriate for some participants and therefore unwelcome. And that is position is reasonable.
So trying a slightly better wording:
* PostgreSQL is a community project and takes no position on any
political question aside from its usage in the public sector (which we
support). We expect communication in community fora to respect this
need. The community is neither competent nor interested in resolving
more general social or political questions. Nonetheless the core team does make an effort at ensuring an atmosphere where all people, regardless of background feel generally welcome.
I think that would address David Wheeler's concern too.
Suppose someone from a divisive organization using PostgreSQL were to make a speech at a PostgreSQL conference about a technical topic. Would that be off-limits just because they are politically divisive as an organization?
The point then is just to note that PostgreSQL is not a political community and has no intention of becoming one, but that one aspect here is to keep the peace so to speak.
Sincerely,
JD
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