On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:05 PM, David E. Wheeler <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Luz Violeta <luz.stancati@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> P.S → even now, I'm kinda terrified of a shitstorm in my first >> mail to the mailing list ... but definitely this spark of hope >> made me come forward and say something, dunno. Welcome! I do wonder what it is that made you terrified of a shitstorm, and what it is that you're hoping for that you don't feel is already present. > the better the likelihood of getting something that creates the > safe environment I firmly believe we all want. Not only do I want that, but I thought we had it. I have still not seen anything to show me otherwise; the hypothetical examples I can remember seeing on these recent threads bear no resemblance to anything I can remember ever seeing on the PostgreSQL lists. Can you point to something as an example of the kind of behavior that you think a Code of Conduct would have prevented? Regarding the question of the Code of Conduct having short, general statements versus listing "protected groups", etc. -- I would like to see everyone protected. Any list, by its nature, is going to make someone feel excluded and unprotected. In my view, the closer it is to a statement of "The Golden Rule"[1], the better. In particular, I think that if (hypothetically) someone who is part of the community makes some idiotic, offensive, insensitive statement of blathering idiocy *outside PostgreSQL forums*, they should enjoy the same right to respect and prevention of attack *on the PostgreSQL forums* as everyone else. They just better not repeat the idiocy here. I would hope that major contributors would keep in mind the impact that such statements in other venues might have on the public perception of the community. I've come around to the point of view that encouraging such consideration is outside the scope of what a Code of Conduct should formally address. The PostgreSQL forums should be a safe place, and rancor engendered elsewhere should not be brought in. Problems should be resolved in a way that minimizes the chance of escalation, recognizing that there could be miscommunication.[2] -- Kevin Grittner EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule [2] http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2016/01/21/brown-gay-sign-causes-amusing-misunderstanding/79116720/ -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
