On Dec 6, 2014, at 12:38 , Bruce Momjian <bruce@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 01:15:50AM -0800, Guyren Howe wrote: >> GIN is certainly not the “three times” size suggested in the docs, but perhaps >> that just hasn’t been updated for the 9.4 improvements. Certainly, there isn’t >> sufficient difference here to make the BTree advantage compelling in most >> applications. > > I am sure the docs need updating for 9.4 — any suggestions? I want to get to the point where I can make fairly definitive statements about indexing regular fields with GIST or GIN. When I do, I’ll be happy to write something for the docs. If folks here can help me get to that point, all to the better of all… :-) >> Given the futility of database benchmarking in general, I didn’t want to go any >> further with this. What I was interested in was whether it might be worth >> switching from BTree to GIST/GIN indexes with regular sorts of data. It appears >> to be the case that GIST and GIN are often better than BTree in general, and >> given their much greater flexibility in satisfying queries on different >> columns, it might even be the case that one should recommend a single GIST or >> GIN index on the frequently-searched columns of a table in most cases? > > What GiST and GIN "ops" did you use for the testing? Was it > contrib/btree_gist and contrib/btree_gin? Sorry; yes. I didn’t realize there was any practical alternative. Is there another option I should test? > You might want to look at my presentation on indexing: > > http://momjian.us/main/presentations/features.html#indexing > > It is my understanding that btree is best for single-match indexes like > unique indexes, or range queries (not range data types), while GIN is > best for indexes with many duplicates. GiST is more of an indexing > framework and I am unclear where it is best except in cases where is the > only option, like geometry and perhaps range (shared with SP-GiST). > With the 9.4 GIN improvements I am unclear if GiST is ever better for > full text indexing compared to GIN. Thanks for this. I will look at your presentation. As I say, if folks can help me work out the definitive answer to all this, I’d love to contribute it to the docs. My starting point was this: given that GIN (and GIST, maybe, the docs sort-of say “sort of”) can use arbitrary index fields, rather than left to right, if you’re in a situation of wanting to query arbitrary subsets of some of the fields on a table, it seems likely that a GIN index might be called for. Is that right? The description I’ve been able to find (that it’s a BTree with more sophisticated handling of duplicates) would surely entail otherwise, but this is clearly what the docs say. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general