Sorry for the late reply, I had to give this some time to digest. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the concept that triggers don't "belong" to a table... On 2013-04-26 17:15, Richard Huxton wrote: > On 26/04/13 10:01, CR Lender wrote: > I think this is more a problem of terminology rather than your current > triggers. Triggers aren't really "part" of a table, but they are > observing it, so it's a sensible place to list them when viewing a > table-definition in psql. There's no reason the trigger function is even > in the same schema as the targetted table. Okay, that's true for the trigger function (procedure), but not for the trigger itself. As far as I can tell, triggers aren't directly adressable, except through their tables. I can have two separate triggers with the same name (in the same schema) on different tables. > How would it feel if the syntax was more like the following? > > CREATE TRIGGER ... OBSERVING UPDATES ON persons ... > > or even > > PUBLISH UPDATE,INSERT,DELETE ON persons AS person_changes; > SUBSCRIBE TO person_changes CALLING PROCEDURE ...; > > A different "feel", but no difference in behaviour. Yes, I see your point; that's how it would look if triggers were completely separate from their tables, in a pub/sub way. I guess I wouldn't have a bad feeling about this if I could define them like that. On the other hand: triggers can't just subscribe to anything, they can only react to events on a single table; they are automatically and silently deleted when the table they are observing is dropped; they can be enabled or disabled via ALTER TABLE, not ALTER TRIGGER. AFAICS, there's also no \d command in psql to list triggers; they are only shown when the observed table is inspected with \d. All of this makes it hard for me to see a trigger as a detached observer rather than a "behavior" of a table, so to speak. I need to think about this some more. Thanks for your help, crl -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general