On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:09 AM, F. BROUARD / SQLpro > <sqlpro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Le 30/08/2012 12:45, Craig Ringer a écrit : >> >> >>> That's my understanding, but I don't know which other database systems >>> you're talking about because you've never specifically named any. >>> >> In his primary post he talk about SQL Server, Sybase and MySQL wich does >> good jobs with collation.... >> >> Almost a majority of RDBMS have collation support wich is very important for >> non english languages, that represents about 90% of the planet languages ! >> >> This feature has always been a "black spot" in PG, and the most important >> topic to discourage to use it in professionnal applications. > > Citations please. > > PostgreSQL has excellent collation support. > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/collation.html > > Sybase performance on upper() case insensitive searchs: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81268/case-insensitive-search-on-sybase > > MySQL case insensitive searchs rely on indexing upper or lower > functions just like PostgreSQL and use seq scans for collation induced > case insensitive searchs: > http://use-the-index-luke.com/sql/where-clause/functions/case-insensitive-search > > Further PostgreSQL has the citext type: > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/citext.html > Which can be handy for case insensitive searches but can ONLY do case > insensitive stuff. Yeah. In particular, lower() approaches for case insensitive searching have always worked and IMSNHO remain the best way. Expression based searching and indexing is a real strong point for postgres and is the 'go to' method for solving a broad array of problems. The fairest complaint you can make is that historically you've had to ditch performance to get good collation features -- and this is mostly solved. I guess the biggest problem that remains is the inability to use LIKE searches for index through utf8 ordered indexes. merlin -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general