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On 08/16/2011 03:06 AM, Craig Ringer wrote:
On 15/08/2011 10:36 PM, Merlin Moncure wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Andreas Joseph Krogh
<andreak@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, PG has never, and will never, act as an application-server.
Why in the world not?

The biggest reason is safety. Beyond that, the lack of autonomous
transactions, stored procedures, in-DB timers, and support for any
protocol other than the native Pg database query protocol mean it's also
rather impractical.

I guess theoretically one could embed a JVM / Python instance / whatever
in the postmaster and have it spawn new backends for incoming
connections with other protocols. But ... why? Why add all that
complexity and - more importantly - contaiminate PostgreSQL's address
space with more code that can fail when you don't have to? PLs and user
C procedures are already risk enough as far as I'm concerned.


As I've mentioned in other posts, we are using postgresql as a hybrid application server and have found it to be very practical and easy to code. For functions that need to run on a regular basis, we use a cron job, though from what I understand pgAgent should be able to handle that just as well. Instead of using Listen/Notify to tell an application to send e-mails, we have an email function written in plpython that sends the email directly. The reason to do this is because it gives you "write once" code which makes your application pretty much client-agnostic.

PG already spawns a new backend for each connection. So your specialized code has little chance of hosing the whole database.

We connect to other databases when we need to, mostly mysql using the MySQLdb python module, to move data to and from our website.

Scalability would be increased with multi-master replication, which bucardo currently does (I haven't tested it yet).

One issue you have is using database style hardware for application server needs, which may be more expensive.


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