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Re: [HACKERS] Date conversion using day of week

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On 03/31/2011 08:27 AM, Brendan Jurd wrote:
On 1 April 2011 02:00, Adrian Klaver<adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:39:25 pm Brendan Jurd wrote:
If we wanted to make it "work", then I think the thing to do would be
to add a new set of formatting tokens IDY, IDAY etc.  I don't like the
idea of interpreting DY and co. differently depending on whether the
other tokens happen to be ISO week or Gregorian.

Just to play Devils advocate here, but why not? The day name is the same either
way, it is the index that changes. I am not sure why that could not be context
specific?


To be perfectly honest, it's mostly because I was hoping not to spend
very much more of my time in formatting.c.  Every time I go in there I
come out a little bit less sane.  I'm concerned that if I do anything
further to it, I might inadvertently summon Chattur'gha or something.
But since you went to the trouble of calling me on my laziness, let's
take a look at the problem.

I understand, my foray into formatting.c has left an impression.


At the time when the day-of-week token gets converted into a numeric
value and put into the TmFromChar.d field, the code has no knowledge
of whether the overall pattern is Gregorian or ISO (the DY field could
well be at the front of the pattern, for example).


Later on, in do_to_timestamp, the code expects the 'd' value to make
sense given the mode (it should be zero-based on Sunday for Gregorian,
or one-based on Monday for ISO).  That's all well and good *except* in
the totally bizarre case raised by the OP.

Now I am confused the docs say:

D	day of the week, Sunday(1) to Saturday(7)
ID	ISO day of the week, Monday(1) to Sunday(7)

This would seem to say they both are one-based but differ on the day that is 1.


To resolve it, we could make TmFromChar.d always stored using the ISO
convention (because zero then has the useful property of meaning "not
set") and converted to the Gregorian convention as necessary in
do_to_timestamp.

Since I am in this deep might as well go deeper.

When I see the requirement:

IYYY-IW-IDY(proposed)
or
YYY-WW-DY
which is implied
GYYY-GWW-GDY

I see the constant being pulled out:

I YYY-W-DY
G YYY-W-DY

I know this presents backwards compatibility issues. Also that the data formatting functions are supposed to track Oracle behavior. It just seems a way to simplify the formatting process. Thanks for taking the time to explain the process.


Cheers,
BJ

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