I just re-checked the server in question, and its allowing relaying fine: %rlytest -f scrappy@postgresql.org -u scrappy@hub.org hosting.commandprompt.com Connecting to hosting.commandprompt.com ... <<< 220 hosting.commandprompt.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Sat, 1 May 2004 14:24:26 -0700 >>> HELO svr1.postgresql.org <<< 250 hosting.commandprompt.com Hello svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71], pleased to meet you >>> MAIL FROM:<scrappy@postgresql.org> <<< 250 2.1.0 <scrappy@postgresql.org>... Sender ok >>> RCPT TO:<scrappy@hub.org> <<< 250 2.1.5 <scrappy@hub.org>... Recipient ok >>> DATA <<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> (message body) <<< 250 2.0.0 i41LOQK25097 Message accepted for delivery >>> QUIT <<< 221 2.0.0 hosting.commandprompt.com closing connection rlytest: relay accepted - final response code 221 The funny thing is that the IP reported below is .128, while we're talking to .129 according to DNS ... Joshua? On Sat, 1 May 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Joshua Drake and Marc Fournier, > > I sent this to you a week ago and I'm still having problems. Some > people just don't get the messages delivered; I just had a person who > couldn't subscribe to pgsql-es-ayuda because hosting.commandprompt.com > refuses to relay the confirmation message. > > Please fix hosting.commandprompt.com or disable it, because some people > is losing mail from the lists. I continually receive bounces like the > one below. Note that this only happens with commandprompt.com; other > relayers work fine. > > ----- Forwarded message from Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@dcc.uchile.cl> ----- > > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:38:30 -0400 > From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@dcc.uchile.cl> > To: jd@commandprompt.com > Cc: scrappy@hub.org > Subject: postgresql.org relay failing? > Message-ID: <20040422013830.GA6361@dcc.uchile.cl> > > Joshua, Marc, > > I am starting to think that there's something weird about the > commandprompt.com relay server. I own the pgsql-es-ayuda mailing list > and receive a lot of bounces that look similar to the one attached. > Observe the fact that hosting.commandprompt.com seems to be denying > relay: > (I get these with different mail addresses, somewhat randomly -- I think > the rest of the list gets the mail through different relays ...) > > I'd appreciate you having a look into the problem. Thanks. > > From @ Wed Apr 21 18:45:56 2004 > Return-Path: <> > X-Original-To: majordomo-postgresql.org-owner+t1b09-320b-997d@localhost.postgresql.org > Delivered-To: majordomo-postgresql.org-owner+t1b09-320b-997d@localhost.postgresql.org > Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) > by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F49D1BB89 > for <majordomo-postgresql.org-owner+t1b09-320b-997d@localhost.postgresql.org>; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:45:56 -0300 (ADT) > Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) > by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) > with ESMTP id 73069-07 > for <majordomo-postgresql.org-owner+t1b09-320b-997d@localhost.postgresql.org>; > Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:45:57 -0300 (ADT) > Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com [207.173.200.128]) > by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FA4D1BABD > for <majordomo-owner+T1B09-320B-997D@postgresql.org>; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:45:54 -0300 (ADT) > Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71]) > by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3LMjtu29120 > for <majordomo-owner+T1B09-320B-997D@postgresql.org>; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:45:56 -0700 > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:45:55 -0700 > Message-Id: <200404212245.i3LMjtu29120@hosting.commandprompt.com> > To: majordomo-owner+T1B09-320B-997D@postgresql.org > From: majordomo-owner+T1B09-320B-997D@postgresql.org > Subject: Majordomo Delivery Error > X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 > tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS, NO_REAL_NAME > X-Spam-Level: > Status: RO > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > A Majordomo message could not be delivered to the following addresses: > > cba_salas_postgresql@hotmail.com: > 550 svr1.postgresql.org (postgresql.org) [200.46.204.71] is currently not > permitted to relay through this server. Perhaps you have not logged into > the pop/imap server in the last 30 minutes or do not have SMTP > Authentication turned on in your email client. > > -- Original message omitted -- > > > -- > Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) > "I think my standards have lowered enough that now I think 'good design' > is when the page doesn't irritate the living f*ck out of me." (JWZ) > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend