On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 03:20:19PM -0700, Graham Davis wrote: > I have a question about index growth. > > The way I understand it, dead tuples in indexes were not reclaimed by > VACUUM commands in the past. However, I've read in a few forum posts > that this was changed somewhere between 7.4 and 8.0. There was a change to indexes that made vacuum more effective; I don't remember the details off-hand. > I'm having an issue where my GIST indexes are growing quite large, and > running a VACUUM doesn't appear to remove the dead tuples. For example, > if I check out the size an index before running any VACUUM : > > select pg_relation_size('asset_positions_position_idx'); > pg_relation_size > ------------------ > 11624448 > (1 row) > > The size is about 11Mb. If I run a VACUUM command in verbose, I see > this about the index: > > INFO: index "asset_positions_position_idx" now contains 4373 row > versions in 68 pages > DETAIL: 0 index pages have been deleted, 0 are currently reusable. > CPU 0.00s/0.00u sec elapsed 0.16 sec. > > When I run the same command to find the size after the VACUUM, it hasn't > changed. However, if I drop and then recreate this index, the size > becomes much smaller (almost half the size): > > drop index asset_positions_position_idx; > DROP INDEX > > CREATE INDEX asset_positions_position_idx ON asset_positions USING GIST > (position GIST_GEOMETRY_OPS); > CREATE INDEX > > select pg_relation_size('asset_positions_position_idx'); > pg_relation_size > ------------------ > 6225920 > (1 row) > > Is there something I am missing here, or is the reclaiming of dead > tuples for these indexes just not working when I run a VACUUM? Is it > suppose to work? That's not really a useful test to see if VACUUM is working. VACUUM can only trim space off the end of a relation (index or table), where by 'end' I mean the end of the last file for that relation on the filesystem. This means it's pretty rare for VACUUM to actually shrink files on-disk for tables. This can be even more difficult for indexes (I think it's virtually impossible to shrink a B-tree index file). -- Jim Nasby jim@xxxxxxxxx EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell)