Christopher Browne wrote: > After takin a swig o' Arrakan spice grog, jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ("Joshua D. Drake") belched out: > > Jeremy Haile wrote: > >> We are a small company looking to put together the most cost effective > >> solution for our production database environment. Currently in > >> production Postgres 8.1 is running on this machine: > >> > >> Dell 2850 > >> 2 x 3.0 Ghz Xeon 800Mhz FSB 2MB Cache > >> 4 GB DDR2 400 Mhz > >> 2 x 73 GB 10K SCSI RAID 1 (for xlog and OS) > >> 4 x 146 GB 10K SCSI RAID 10 (for postgres data) > >> Perc4ei controller > >> > >> The above is a standard Dell box with nothing added or modified beyond > >> the options available directly through Dell. > > > You should probably review the archives for PostgreSQL user > > experience with Dell's before you purchase one. > > Hear, hear! We found Dell servers were big-time underperformers. > > Generic hardware put together with generally the same brand names of > components (e.g. - for SCSI controllers and such) would generally play > much better. > > For the cheapo desktop boxes they obviously have to buy the "cheapest > hardware available this week;" it sure seems as though they engage in > the same sort of thing with the "server class" hardware. > > I don't think anyone has been able to forcibly point out any > completely precise shortcoming; just that they underperform what the > specs suggest they ought to be able to provide. Dell often says part X is included, but part X is not the exact same as part X sold by the original manufacturer. To hit a specific price point, Dell is willing to strip thing out of commodity hardware, and often does so even when performance suffers. For many people, this is unacceptable. -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us SRA OSS, Inc. http://www.sraoss.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +