Re: Warm standby questions

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A quick question for you on this note, since you seem to actually be doing
it.

In the case he suggested below, does B delete the WAL files once consumed, do I do that with an external monitor, or do they stay there forever until I
run out of space?

The slave/standby server deletes the logs from pg_xlog when it's done replaying them (so you need to keep the ones needed for recovery around locally so you can do a failover - I discovered this the hard way in our dev environment :).

If you're using the pg_standby tool (under contrib/ in the Pg source) the directory it picks the logs up from isn't touched by default so it will accumulate logs until the disk fills, but there are parameters to have it remove the segments it doesn't need anymore to keep your disk from filling up.


My environment is a little strange (at least I never read about one set up like this before I built it) and has some associated oddities in the old segment cleanup process - All of my slaves mount an archive partition on the master (read-only) and every log file is "picked up" twice: Once to copy it locally, and again to put it where Postgres wants it for replay/recovery. every slave to bring up a new master. If there's interest I'll post a writeup on my blog rather than rambling in an email :)


-MG


-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-admin-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pgsql-admin-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Graziano
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:45 PM
To: David F. Skoll
Cc: pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  Warm standby questions

On Oct 13, 2009, at 1:17 PM, David F. Skoll wrote:
Hi,

I'm running PostgreSQL 8.3.  Suppose I have master server A shipping
logs
to backup server B.  At some time in the past, I did a full backup
from A
to B, and now B is running in recovery mode, happily consuming WALs.

I'm running 8.4, but the following should be applicable.


Q1. If I stop and restart master server A gracefully, do I need to do
anything to B (assuming that it doesn't fail over... we'll assume I
did
something special to the standby script to tell B not to fail over
during planned downtime of A.) Can B continue happily consuming WALs,
or is another full backup required?

B can continue consuming WALs when A comes back up, provided it didn't
fail over and make itself into a master as you noted above.  If you're
using the pg_standby script you can set it up so the slave will just
wait around checking for the next segment until the master comes back
up & use the trigger file to make failover happen (via an external
process).


Q2.  If I stop and restart backup server B while master server A
continues
to run, will B continue eating WALs from where it left off?  Or do
we need
another full backup?  (We'll assume WAL shipping continues
successfully during
the time B is down: I'm only stopping/restarting PostgreSQL, not the
entire
machine.)

No need for another backup -- the slave will pick up and run through
the WALs that have accumulated as quickly as it can when it comes back
up.  (This is how I do backups at the moment: One of my slaves shuts
down, our backup software grabs the data directory, then the slave
starts up again and chews through the logs that accumulated while it
was stopped).

The caveat is you need enough log segments available for recovery to
catch itself up, which shouldn't be a problem if your slave is only
stopped for a brief period.

-MG


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