Re: [PATCH] memorder.tex: the exists clause in Listing 15.35 should never be satisfied.

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On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 19:41:56 +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 02:48:22 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 06:21:16PM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:58:25 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 05:37:55PM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
>>>>> [+CC: Paul]
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 11:17:25 +0800, Patrick Yingxi Pan wrote:
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the context and my understanding of locking primitives, I
>>>>>> suppose the 'exists' clause in the litmus test shouldn't be satisfied.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you in that section 15.4.2.2 is described as if the
>>>>> result were "Never".
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if you run herd7 on the litmus test, you'll get:
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Test Lock-outside-across Allowed
>>>>> States 4
>>>>> 0:r1=0; 1:r1=0;
>>>>> 0:r1=0; 1:r1=1;
>>>>> 0:r1=1; 1:r1=0;
>>>>> 0:r1=1; 1:r1=1;
>>>>> Ok
>>>>> Witnesses
>>>>> Positive: 2 Negative: 12
>>>>> Condition exists (0:r1=0 /\ 1:r1=0)
>>>>> Observation Lock-outside-across Sometimes 2 12   <--
>>>>> Time Lock-outside-across 0.02
>>>>> Hash=06337358bba3d1ed44db8ea81cf1d236
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, I'm not in the position of deciding LKMM is right or not.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for checking, Akira!
>>>>
>>>> This is the following litmus test?
>>>>
>>>> CodeSamples/formal/herd/C-Lock-outside-across.litmus
>>>
>>> Yes, it is.
>>
>> Strange.  This is what I get from it on the -rcu dev branch as well
>> as on v6.0 and v5.19:
>>
>> $ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg /home/git/perfbook/CodeSamples/formal/herd/C-Lock-outside-across.litmus
>> Test Lock-outside-across Allowed
>> States 3
>> 0:r1=0; 1:r1=1;
>> 0:r1=1; 1:r1=0;
>> 0:r1=1; 1:r1=1;
>> No
>> Witnesses
>> Positive: 0 Negative: 3
>> Condition exists (0:r1=0 /\ 1:r1=0)
>> Observation Lock-outside-across Never 0 3
>> Time Lock-outside-across 0.01
>> Hash=06337358bba3d1ed44db8ea81cf1d236
>>
>> Am I running a bad version of herd7 or something?
> Ah, you are right!
> I got the Sometimes result from herd7 of herdtools7's current master.
> 
> I'll try bisecting herdtools7.
And the bisection points to a very recent commit.
I have opened an issue at https://github.com/herd/herdtools7/issues/433.

It looks like Patrick noticed the typo at the best timing. No? ;-)

        Thanks, Akira

> 
> Sorry for the noise.
> 
>         Thanks, Akira
> 
>>
>> $ herd7 -version
>> 7.56+02~dev, Rev: c375ecc537da22070913496ad2043ae501c7ab78
>>
>> 							Thanx, Paul



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