[+CC: Paul] Hi, On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 11:17:25 +0800, Patrick Yingxi Pan wrote: > Hello! > > According to the context and my understanding of locking primitives, I > suppose the 'exists' clause in the litmus test shouldn't be satisfied. I agree with you in that section 15.4.2.2 is described as if the result were "Never". However, if you run herd7 on the litmus test, you'll get: ------------------------------------------------ Test Lock-outside-across Allowed States 4 0:r1=0; 1:r1=0; 0:r1=0; 1:r1=1; 0:r1=1; 1:r1=0; 0:r1=1; 1:r1=1; Ok Witnesses Positive: 2 Negative: 12 Condition exists (0:r1=0 /\ 1:r1=0) Observation Lock-outside-across Sometimes 2 12 <-- Time Lock-outside-across 0.02 Hash=06337358bba3d1ed44db8ea81cf1d236 ------------------------------------------------ That said, I'm not in the position of deciding LKMM is right or not. Thanks, Akira > > Signed-off-by: Patrick Pan <pyxchina92929@xxxxxxxxx> > --- > memorder/memorder.tex | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/memorder/memorder.tex b/memorder/memorder.tex > index a0a87d0a..9c1846d0 100644 > --- a/memorder/memorder.tex > +++ b/memorder/memorder.tex > @@ -3452,7 +3452,7 @@ following subsequent critical sections? > This question can be answered for the Linux kernel by referring to > \cref{lst:memorder:Accesses Outside of Critical Sections} > (\path{C-Lock-outside-across.litmus}). > -Running this litmus test yields the \co{Sometimes} result, > +Running this litmus test yields the \co{Never} result, > which means that accesses in code leading up to a prior critical section > is also visible to the current CPU or thread holding that same lock. > Similarly, code that is placed after a subsequent critical section > > base-commit: 7f12a9358e220f3d0c3a0880d01bc283113d7a5b > --