On 2017/11/03 08:45:50 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 11:53:00PM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: >> On 2017/11/03 06:59:48 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 10:32:30PM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> In commit 405f3f465f7f ("debugging,formal: Update for increased Linux kernel usage"), >>>> there is an incomplete hunk of formal/formal.tex >>>> >>>> @@ -135,6 +147,7 @@ The larger overarching software construct is of course validated by testing. >>>> artifact from the viewpoint of formal verification, it is tiny >>>> compared to a great number of projects, including LLVM, >>>> \GCC, the Linux kernel, Hadoop, MongoDB, and a great many others. >>>> + In addition, >>>> >>>> Although formal verification is finally starting to show some >>>> promise, including more-recent L4 verifications involving greater >>>> >>>> What was your intention here? >>> >>> Those two words do leave quite a bit to the imagination, don't they? >> >> Indeed. ;-) >> >>> >>> Good catch, thank you! Does the patch below help? >>> >>> Thanx, Paul >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> commit 7f417104712459c70117333aa392d680350cae90 >>> Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Date: Fri Nov 3 06:58:10 2017 -0700 >>> >>> formal: Complete verification-limitations thought in QQ12.33 >>> >>> Reported-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> diff --git a/formal/formal.tex b/formal/formal.tex >>> index 7c1aeac7d112..2fa410252197 100644 >>> --- a/formal/formal.tex >>> +++ b/formal/formal.tex >>> @@ -147,7 +147,9 @@ The larger overarching software construct is of course validated by testing. >>> artifact from the viewpoint of formal verification, it is tiny >>> compared to a great number of projects, including LLVM, >>> \GCC, the Linux kernel, Hadoop, MongoDB, and a great many others. >>> - In addition, >>> + In addition, this verification did have limits, as the researchers >>> + freely admit, to their credit: >>> + \url{https://wiki.sel4.systems/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#What_does_seL4.27s_formal_verification_mean.3F}. >> >> The next item in the page: >> >> https://wiki.sel4.systems/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#Does_seL4_have_zero_bugs.3F >> >> looks more relevant to the "limits", doesn't it? > > Fair enough, please see below. Acked-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> > > Thanx, Paul > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > commit 715dff95ec40599a67c6835be78a98de2d45c251 > Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Fri Nov 3 06:58:10 2017 -0700 > > formal: Complete verification-limitations thought in QQ12.33 > > Reported-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > diff --git a/formal/formal.tex b/formal/formal.tex > index 7c1aeac7d112..219395354106 100644 > --- a/formal/formal.tex > +++ b/formal/formal.tex > @@ -147,7 +147,9 @@ The larger overarching software construct is of course validated by testing. > artifact from the viewpoint of formal verification, it is tiny > compared to a great number of projects, including LLVM, > \GCC, the Linux kernel, Hadoop, MongoDB, and a great many others. > - In addition, > + In addition, this verification did have limits, as the researchers > + freely admit, to their credit: > + \url{https://wiki.sel4.systems/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#Does_seL4_have_zero_bugs.3F}. > > Although formal verification is finally starting to show some > promise, including more-recent L4 verifications involving greater > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe perfbook" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html