Re: pam_wheel: su to non-root vs. su to root

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This is clearly a bug. pam_wheel should not restrict su-ing to non-root 
accounts. I see the same behaviour on my system.

Werner


On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, KhoGuan PhuaN wrote:

> 
> The security policy enforced by pam_wheel.so module is to grant
> privilege of su'ing to `both root and non-root' only to people
> in a privileged group(default wheel group, if not found, group with 
> gid=0). I think it's overkilling. The reasoning is as follows:
> 
> 1. It should do just what it claims to do: "only permit root
>     authentication to members of wheel group", but no more. That is,
>     leave non-root authentication alone.
> 
> 2. Even if it's desirable to restrict su'ing to non-root, and to
>     incorporate this function into pam_wheel, it should be implemented
>     in a different level, perhaps by designing different arguments for
>     pam_wheel. Su'ing to root has much more security concern than su'ing
>     to general users. And the latter would be very convenient for two
>     users who trust each other and share each other's passwords. The
>     admin should not deprive their humble wishes of doing that. It's not
>     related to the wheel group membership. The policy is UNFAIR that they
>     are not allowed to su to each other just because they are not members
>     of the wheel group, which has only to do with system maintenance they
>     would never be interested in.
> 
> Yet another concern comes to me: what about su'ing to wheel members by
> non-wheel members. Should it be implemented in yet another different
> pam_wheel argument. Maybe it's good, maybe it's overkilling on the other 
> end.
> 
> Should I file a `bug' report? Or do I over-sympathize with the dummy
> users who are always messing things up. Any suggestion and correction 
> would be highly appreciated.
> 
> --KhoGuan Phuann
> 
> 
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