The security policy enforced by pam_wheel.so module is to grant privilege of su'ing to `both root and non-root' only to people in a privileged group(default wheel group, if not found, group with gid=0). I think it's overkilling. The reasoning is as follows: 1. It should do just what it claims to do: "only permit root authentication to members of wheel group", but no more. That is, leave non-root authentication alone. 2. Even if it's desirable to restrict su'ing to non-root, and to incorporate this function into pam_wheel, it should be implemented in a different level, perhaps by designing different arguments for pam_wheel. Su'ing to root has much more security concern than su'ing to general users. And the latter would be very convenient for two users who trust each other and share each other's passwords. The admin should not deprive their humble wishes of doing that. It's not related to the wheel group membership. The policy is UNFAIR that they are not allowed to su to each other just because they are not members of the wheel group, which has only to do with system maintenance they would never be interested in. Yet another concern comes to me: what about su'ing to wheel members by non-wheel members. Should it be implemented in yet another different pam_wheel argument. Maybe it's good, maybe it's overkilling on the other end. Should I file a `bug' report? Or do I over-sympathize with the dummy users who are always messing things up. Any suggestion and correction would be highly appreciated. --KhoGuan Phuann _______________________________________________ Pam-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pam-list