I am in trying to get my system working with authentication using a mixture of both of these programs. I want the nss-mysql part so I can have users in my mysql table owning files on the HD and such other low level auth issues. I want the pam-mysql module however so I can do where statements limiting access to services. For instance I have a column in my users table called "ssh". I use that column as a y/n flag about permitting ssh access. I couple this with a where statement in my sshd config file in /etc/pam.d. I would like to be able to spread this along to almost all my programs (login, ftp, etc.) that use pam for authentication. The major issue that I foresee in doing this is that users that are stored in /etc/passwd (root for example) will be unable to login as they won't have that flag in the mysql db as they don't exist there. What I think I want is a setup where it will check either /etc/passwd directly and if the user is there allow them access or check the mysql db (through Pam-mysql) and if the user is there allow them access if the flag for that service is set to a y. Is this possible? ---------------- Thanks Jefferson Cowart Jeff@cowart.net Support Open Instant Messaging Protocols http://www.petitiononline.com/openIM/petition.html