Re: OpenSSL project is considering to close this mailing list

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On 3/17/2023 08:06, Graham Leggett via openssl-users wrote:
On 17 Mar 2023, at 10:04, Tomas Mraz <tomas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We are seeking input on this potential change if you are currently
actively contributing on openssl-users mailing list discussion and you
believe such a change would substantially reduce your participation in
the project.

[1] https://github.com/openssl/openssl/
[2] https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues
[3] https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pulls
As bank account holders of SVB have discovered, counterparty risk is a thing.

I would gate all notifications from github onto these lists to be archived permanently in an off-github medium. Github decides to replace the features you’re using with something else, the history is lost for good.

I second this and will point out that Github is NOT politically and socially agnostic.

This is a serious problem for a software stack that allegedly is agnostic.  You are what you base your operations on when it can be yanked out from under you should you refuse to play "their" way, and "their way" can be redefined as they wish without your consent.

I don't use Github for communication, questions and commentary anywhere else -- not just for this reason, but rather because its interface for this sort of purpose is clunky and stupid; its just not suitable for purpose.  Git itself as a revision-control system works perfectly well albeit not easily-serialized (which is a problem when bisecting to try to figure out which commit hosed you), but that's a problem that can be worked around and, given the design, is tolerable.

IMHO keep the list.

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Karl Denninger
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