Re: Anonymous DH (ADH) in real world applications

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On 19/08/2018 14:36, Anton wrote:
Hello

Does anyone know some examples of applications using
ADH ciphersuites for TLS connections in production
environment?

I know it is vulnerable to MITM, but it still can
be useful, for example if communicating devices do
not store state data for authentication (unique
certificate per instance), but protection from
passive eavesdropping is desirable.

Is it reasonable to expect having ADH support enabled
in future releases of OpenSSL?

Anton

The common secure use is to combine ADH with a mechanism that
authenticates the session (handshake messages and or a derived
value) over the connection, thus removing the MiTM problem.

That mechanism is generally application level, but may or may
not use various dedicated TLS features to get such a derived
value, depending on the oldest TLS library originally supported
by that application protocol (for example if the application
protocol was originally designed to cope with TLS libraries that
provide only "form X" of the handshake data, then the the
application protocol would specify an element that authenticates
the "form X" value and won't interoperate with code that uses a
more modern "form Y" value even if the application code no longer
supports TLS libraries not offering "form Y").

(As usual, X and Y are placeholders).

Enjoy

Jakob
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