Re: Lattice Ciphers

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Okay, FF does ECDHE not DHE/EDH.  The whole industry does that, and most are using X25519 which was developed by Dan Bernstein.

FF claims it does DHE/EDH, but it does not actually, in practice.  It does either EC, or RSA.  I've tested it. (v52)  This does not look like an accident. 


 The Guardian article you referenced didn’t even have the word curve in it.  My question – do you have a reference that shows Schneier says not to use elliptic curve – was not answered.


You don't have to read the article if you don't want to.
"Prefer conventional discrete-log-based systems over elliptic-curve systems; the latter have constants that the NSA influences when they can."

  • The NSA actually provided the elliptic curves for NIST's standards.  And the Snowden docs now show that those curves are related.

No they do not show that the curves are related.  And BTW, NIST just put 25519 and 448 into their recommended list.


By its nature (secrecy), nothing public will prove the curves are related.  But Snowden documents show that they are.  And related curves have an inherent shortcut to cracking, which any well-funded haqxor or state-sponsored entity will have access to.


From: noloader@xxxxxxxxx

Later I realized that was the best warning Google and Schmidt could
give. He basically told you government has infiltrated their systems,
and you should avoid their systems if security and privacy matters.

What great PR, that it's become almost instinctive for people to ascribe benevolance to G**gle.  I believe that Schmidt was telling us his true position though.

The one I am angry with is Mozilla, for not giving us a choice.  Chrome is a choice?!  Safari is a choice?!  IE is a choice?!  No.  They are not.


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