RE: Difference in buffer behaviour between 8.89 and 8.9?

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WRITEX, yes. And write() and fwrite(). It is a file system limit, but there
are replacement procedures available now, just not for sockets.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: openssh-unix-dev <openssh-unix-dev-
>bounces+rsbecker=nexbridge.com@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Scott Neugroschl
>Sent: May 19, 2022 5:21 PM
>To: rsbecker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'rapier' <rapier@xxxxxxx>; 'Damien Miller'
><djm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: openssh-unix-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: Difference in buffer behaviour between 8.89 and 8.9?
>
>Randall,
>
>Isn't that a consequence of the limits on the nonstop READX call?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: openssh-unix-dev <openssh-unix-dev-
>bounces+scott_n=xypro.com@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
>rsbecker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 11:33 AM
>To: 'rapier' <rapier@xxxxxxx>; 'Damien Miller' <djm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: openssh-unix-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: Difference in buffer behaviour between 8.89 and 8.9?
>
>This may be part of it for me also, but in the other direction. I cannot
exceed 56000
>bytes for any I/O unless through a buffered stream.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: openssh-unix-dev <openssh-unix-dev-
>>bounces+rsbecker=nexbridge.com@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of rapier
>>Sent: May 19, 2022 2:22 PM
>>To: Damien Miller <djm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Cc: openssh-unix-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: Difference in buffer behaviour between 8.89 and 8.9?
>>
>>I think I have a fix, or at least a better band aid, for people in my
>situation. If, at
>>some point, you decide to increase the size of CHAN_SES_WINDOW_DEFAULT
>>this may be helpful.
>>
>>Basically, the changes to channels.h increases the size of SSH's
>>receive
>buffer,
>>which triggers this behaviour. The changes in sshbuf.c tests to see if
>>the
>buffer is
>>larger than ssh buffer that seems to be handling the incoming packets.
>>The assumption is that if it's larger then it's the receive buffer. I
>>then
>aggressively grow
>>that buffer (4MB at a time) but no more buf->max_size. The debug
>>statement
>is
>>so you can see what's going on but that should be removed for production.
>>
>>If you comment out the section that grows the window aggressively you
>>can
>see
>>the stall as the buffer grows 32k at a time. I have some concerns about
>growing
>>the buffer it such large chunks. Also, I'd ideally make it a function
>>of
>the size of c-
>>>local_window_max but I can't seem to get an extern working.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>This patch is against the head of the master branch of openssh-portable.
>>
>>diff --git a/channels.h b/channels.h
>>index 828c1b61b..ae897680c 100644
>>--- a/channels.h
>>+++ b/channels.h
>>@@ -210,7 +210,7 @@ struct Channel {
>>
>>  /* default window/packet sizes for tcp/x11-fwd-channel */
>>  #define CHAN_SES_PACKET_DEFAULT        (32*1024)
>>-#define CHAN_SES_WINDOW_DEFAULT        (64*CHAN_SES_PACKET_DEFAULT)
>>+#define CHAN_SES_WINDOW_DEFAULT
>>(4096*CHAN_SES_PACKET_DEFAULT)
>>  #define CHAN_TCP_PACKET_DEFAULT        (32*1024)
>>  #define CHAN_TCP_WINDOW_DEFAULT
>(64*CHAN_TCP_PACKET_DEFAULT)
>>  #define CHAN_X11_PACKET_DEFAULT        (16*1024)
>>diff --git a/sshbuf.c b/sshbuf.c
>>index 840b899b1..b45720e1f 100644
>>--- a/sshbuf.c
>>+++ b/sshbuf.c
>>@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
>>  #include "ssherr.h"
>>  #include "sshbuf.h"
>>  #include "misc.h"
>>+#include "log.h"
>>
>>  static inline int
>>  sshbuf_check_sanity(const struct sshbuf *buf) @@ -327,9 +328,27 @@
>>sshbuf_allocate(struct sshbuf *buf, size_t len)
>>          */
>>         need = len + buf->size - buf->alloc;
>>         rlen = ROUNDUP(buf->alloc + need, SSHBUF_SIZE_INC);
>>+       /* I think the receive buffer is the one that is
>>+        * growing slowly. This buffer quickly ends up being larger
>>+        * than the typical packet buffer (usually 32.25KB) so if
>>+        * we explicitly test for growth needs larger than that we
>>+        * can accelerate the growth of this buffer and reduce load
>>+        * the CPU and improve throughput. Ideally we would use
>>+        * (local_window_max - rlen) as need but we don't have access
>>+        * to that here */
>>+       if (rlen > 34*1024) {
>>+               need = 4 * 1024 * 1024;
>>+               rlen = ROUNDUP(buf->alloc + need, SSHBUF_SIZE_INC);
>>+               if (rlen > buf->max_size)
>>+                       rlen = buf->max_size;
>>+       }
>>         SSHBUF_DBG(("need %zu initial rlen %zu", need, rlen));
>>         if (rlen > buf->max_size)
>>                 rlen = buf->alloc + need;
>>+       /* be sure to include log.h if you uncomment the debug
>>+        * this debug helped identify the buffer growth issue in v8.9
>>+        * see the git log about it. search for sshbuf_read */
>>+       debug("adjusted rlen: %zu, len: %lu for %p", rlen, len, buf);
>>         SSHBUF_DBG(("adjusted rlen %zu", rlen));
>>         if ((dp = recallocarray(buf->d, buf->alloc, rlen, 1)) == NULL) {
>>                 SSHBUF_DBG(("realloc fail")); @@ -401,4 +420,3 @@
>>sshbuf_consume_end(struct sshbuf *buf, size_t len)
>>         SSHBUF_TELL("done");
>>         return 0;
>>  }
>>
>>
>>On 5/19/22 11:23 AM, rapier wrote:
>>> Damien
>>>
>>>> 8.9 switch from select() to poll() and included a couple of bugs
>>>> that could cause weird problems. IMO you should try to port to
>>>> what's on the top of the V_9_0 git branch, which is 9.0 + one more
>>>> poll()- related fix.
>>>
>>> I just tried it with the head (commit bedb93415b) of the master branch.
>>> Unfortunately, I'm still seeing the issue.
>>>
>>> debug1: adjusted rlen: 33024, len: 32788 for 0x5609805a3eb0
>>> debug1: adjusted rlen: 36438016, len: 32768 for 0x5609805b0ed0
>>> debug1: adjusted rlen: 33024, len: 32788 for 0x5609805a3eb0
>>> debug1: adjusted rlen: 36470784, len: 32768 for 0x5609805b0ed0
>>> debug1: adjusted rlen: 33024, len: 32788 for 0x5609805a3eb0
>>> debug1: adjusted rlen: 36503552, len: 32768 for 0x5609805b0ed0
>>>
>>> Chris
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