well generally I would be available for all the nouveau projects, although I am lacking proper knowledge for a few of those like video acceleration. But I am sure I would be able to dig into stuff enough before the projects starts. On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Roy Spliet <nouveau@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Thanks for reaching out on the matter Ilia. > I am not to be relied on. If you're lucky, I might be able to take some > questions about past work, but cannot make a solid time commitment that > warrants being a mentor. > Of course, the mentor does not necessarily have to have the deepest > understanding of the subject matter. *At the end of the GSOC* a good > student should be trusted with having more knowledge on the specific > topic than the mentor. That being said, DVFS is fidgetty and the outcome > is binary (it either works or crashes your machine spectacularly), so > it's difficult to get someone started and keep 'em motivated if as a > mentor you don't have experience on the topic. As such, I'd consider it > a high risk topic to promote unless one of the relative veteran > developers (Ben, Martin, Karol, or Lyude in the case of clock/power > gating) is keen to mentor. > > Roy > > > On 26/03/2019 15:07, Ilia Mirkin wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:56 AM Trevor Woerner <twoerner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> On Tue 2019-03-26 @ 10:40:49 AM, Ilia Mirkin wrote: > >>> Just looked over the projects... they all seem valid > >> > >> Thank you for taking the time to have a look and provide feedback! > >> > >>> but are there > >>> people who could realistically mentor a GSoC student for these? IMHO > >>> unless mentors can be identified, these should all be archived. > >> > >> Attracting mentors is probably the hardest part of running GSoC. Perhaps if a > >> student shows interest in a given topic, someone might be inspired to sign up > >> as a mentor? > >> > >> Keeping the list of ideas up-to-date and finding mentors are the two things > >> I'm hoping to make a noticeable improvement to this year. It also ties in > >> strongly with: > >> > >> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/issues/76 > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Trevor > > > > BTW - I meant my comment to only apply to nouveau-related projects. > > Both in terms of validity, as well as mentorship-unavailability. > > > > It sucks for a student to come in, think that some project is > > available to work on, only to find that there's no one who can mentor > > them. I don't know how often that happens, but I bet it's "sometimes". > > Better to get them to dedicate themselves to projects that do have > > mentors available. > > > > [And yeah, I know these are meant as "ideas", but I think in practice > > it's "here's a list of projects for you to select from". Only a very > > rare student will come up with their own idea.] > > > > -ilia > > _______________________________________________ > > Nouveau mailing list > > Nouveau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/nouveau > > > _______________________________________________ > Nouveau mailing list > Nouveau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/nouveau _______________________________________________ Nouveau mailing list Nouveau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/nouveau