Re: [Piglit] X.Org GSoC 2019 - Student Application Period

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Thanks for reaching out on the matter Ilia.
I am not to be relied on. If you're lucky, I might be able to take some questions about past work, but cannot make a solid time commitment that warrants being a mentor. Of course, the mentor does not necessarily have to have the deepest understanding of the subject matter. *At the end of the GSOC* a good student should be trusted with having more knowledge on the specific topic than the mentor. That being said, DVFS is fidgetty and the outcome is binary (it either works or crashes your machine spectacularly), so it's difficult to get someone started and keep 'em motivated if as a mentor you don't have experience on the topic. As such, I'd consider it a high risk topic to promote unless one of the relative veteran developers (Ben, Martin, Karol, or Lyude in the case of clock/power gating) is keen to mentor.

Roy


On 26/03/2019 15:07, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:56 AM Trevor Woerner <twoerner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue 2019-03-26 @ 10:40:49 AM, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
Just looked over the projects... they all seem valid

Thank you for taking the time to have a look and provide feedback!

but are there
people who could realistically mentor a GSoC student for these? IMHO
unless mentors can be identified, these should all be archived.

Attracting mentors is probably the hardest part of running GSoC. Perhaps if a
student shows interest in a given topic, someone might be inspired to sign up
as a mentor?

Keeping the list of ideas up-to-date and finding mentors are the two things
I'm hoping to make a noticeable improvement to this year. It also ties in
strongly with:

         https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/issues/76

Best regards,
         Trevor

BTW - I meant my comment to only apply to nouveau-related projects.
Both in terms of validity, as well as mentorship-unavailability.

It sucks for a student to come in, think that some project is
available to work on, only to find that there's no one who can mentor
them. I don't know how often that happens, but I bet it's "sometimes".
Better to get them to dedicate themselves to projects that do have
mentors available.

[And yeah, I know these are meant as "ideas", but I think in practice
it's "here's a list of projects for you to select from". Only a very
rare student will come up with their own idea.]

   -ilia
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